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		<title>By: Lane</title>
		<link>http://veganbits.com/vegetarian-food/comment-page-1/#comment-4025</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Swami,

Of course there are always a few exceptions to the rule.  But part of the reason we&#039;ll remain vegans is that we don&#039;t  believe any animal needs to die for us to live.  There are so many humans on the earth that in order to feed the efficiently many atrocities have to take place.  My brother is quite happy with his choice to buy organic, grass-fed beef at a local farm, but even he conceded this is not a sustainable option for the entire planet.

Glad to hear that you are treating your animals with respect.  If we consumed dairy, you are exactly the type of place we would hope to be able to purchase our cheese and eggs from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Swami,</p>
<p>Of course there are always a few exceptions to the rule.  But part of the reason we&#8217;ll remain vegans is that we don&#8217;t  believe any animal needs to die for us to live.  There are so many humans on the earth that in order to feed the efficiently many atrocities have to take place.  My brother is quite happy with his choice to buy organic, grass-fed beef at a local farm, but even he conceded this is not a sustainable option for the entire planet.</p>
<p>Glad to hear that you are treating your animals with respect.  If we consumed dairy, you are exactly the type of place we would hope to be able to purchase our cheese and eggs from.</p>
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		<title>By: swami</title>
		<link>http://veganbits.com/vegetarian-food/comment-page-1/#comment-3982</link>
		<dc:creator>swami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not all family farms and organic dairies send their cows to slaughter. We don&#039;t, and we save some who would have been. We run a micro organic creamery, and our cows and bulls are as happy as a cows can be, and so are we, taking care for them and drinking and selling their raw milk. We also teach families how to do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all family farms and organic dairies send their cows to slaughter. We don&#8217;t, and we save some who would have been. We run a micro organic creamery, and our cows and bulls are as happy as a cows can be, and so are we, taking care for them and drinking and selling their raw milk. We also teach families how to do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Green Me: Healthy and Green by the Day</title>
		<link>http://veganbits.com/vegetarian-food/comment-page-1/#comment-758</link>
		<dc:creator>Green Me: Healthy and Green by the Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Inspired by the monthly vegetarian challenge? Lane of Vegan Bits presents her family&#8217;s experience with being vegan in Food For Vegetarian Thought. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Inspired by the monthly vegetarian challenge? Lane of Vegan Bits presents her family&#8217;s experience with being vegan in Food For Vegetarian Thought. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lane</title>
		<link>http://veganbits.com/vegetarian-food/comment-page-1/#comment-649</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sue,

Your barbeque&#039;d &quot;pizza&quot; sounds delicious, but as ex-NYers, that&#039;s not pizza... 

Pizza is very difficult for us.  Jane and I are both native NYer&#039;s.  Plain cheese pizza was a staple for us all our lives until we moved away (so, well into adulthood).  When we go back to NY to visit, pizza is just something we subconsciously associate with being there.  You go get a slice for lunch, order in a pie with your friend&#039;s and watch TV.  Friday nights are pizza nights.  You&#039;re walking up 2nd ave and get a slice of Ray&#039;s from their take out window and continue walking along...

And as native NYer&#039;s we&#039;re actually snobby about what qualifies as pizza.  Domino&#039;s is not pizza!   Home-made bread/sauce/cheese concoctions may taste good, but they&#039;re not what our brain thinks of when we think pizza.

So, that is one of our hardest hurdles to overcome.  As Gary mentioned above, vegan cheese is becoming more palatable.  And he holds out hope that vegan pizza will be within our reach soon.  We&#039;re hopeful that he&#039;s right and that someday (much sooner than later), there will be a vegan pizza even the NY contingent will embrace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sue,</p>
<p>Your barbeque&#8217;d &#8220;pizza&#8221; sounds delicious, but as ex-NYers, that&#8217;s not pizza&#8230; </p>
<p>Pizza is very difficult for us.  Jane and I are both native NYer&#8217;s.  Plain cheese pizza was a staple for us all our lives until we moved away (so, well into adulthood).  When we go back to NY to visit, pizza is just something we subconsciously associate with being there.  You go get a slice for lunch, order in a pie with your friend&#8217;s and watch TV.  Friday nights are pizza nights.  You&#8217;re walking up 2nd ave and get a slice of Ray&#8217;s from their take out window and continue walking along&#8230;</p>
<p>And as native NYer&#8217;s we&#8217;re actually snobby about what qualifies as pizza.  Domino&#8217;s is not pizza!   Home-made bread/sauce/cheese concoctions may taste good, but they&#8217;re not what our brain thinks of when we think pizza.</p>
<p>So, that is one of our hardest hurdles to overcome.  As Gary mentioned above, vegan cheese is becoming more palatable.  And he holds out hope that vegan pizza will be within our reach soon.  We&#8217;re hopeful that he&#8217;s right and that someday (much sooner than later), there will be a vegan pizza even the NY contingent will embrace.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue H</title>
		<link>http://veganbits.com/vegetarian-food/comment-page-1/#comment-645</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Driving past the stockyards on the drive from LA to Sacramento did in the California happy cow hype for me.  OK, that and reading Fast Food Nation.

Funny that you mention pizza, we made barbequed pizzas last night.  Mine was no cheese, of course, because I don&#039;t care for the substitutes, but a really spicy sauce plus tons of red bell pepper and artichoke hearts made it so, so good.  Really, greasy congealing cheese would have totally ruined it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Driving past the stockyards on the drive from LA to Sacramento did in the California happy cow hype for me.  OK, that and reading Fast Food Nation.</p>
<p>Funny that you mention pizza, we made barbequed pizzas last night.  Mine was no cheese, of course, because I don&#8217;t care for the substitutes, but a really spicy sauce plus tons of red bell pepper and artichoke hearts made it so, so good.  Really, greasy congealing cheese would have totally ruined it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lane</title>
		<link>http://veganbits.com/vegetarian-food/comment-page-1/#comment-623</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gary,
I hope/expect you&#039;re right about the vegan cheese pizza.
I&#039;ve heard great things about Teese, but hadn&#039;t yet heard about Cheesley.  So we&#039;ll have to try and get our hands on those.  
I love your point about the communal feel...  It almost makes me feel less selfish about focusing so much energy on what I&#039;m eating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gary,<br />
I hope/expect you&#8217;re right about the vegan cheese pizza.<br />
I&#8217;ve heard great things about Teese, but hadn&#8217;t yet heard about Cheesley.  So we&#8217;ll have to try and get our hands on those.<br />
I love your point about the communal feel&#8230;  It almost makes me feel less selfish about focusing so much energy on what I&#8217;m eating!</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://veganbits.com/vegetarian-food/comment-page-1/#comment-609</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is quite a substantive post!

I have a feeling that long before the end of your lives, you&#039;ll be ordering great-tasting vegan pizza on a regular basis, and that will not only replace animal cheese pizza, but pretty much guarantee against &quot;falling off the wagon.&quot;

Already, there are some great advances being made in vegan cheese - Cheezley and Teese come to mind. The vegan parmesans are very good, too. As more people reduce and eventually eliminate their dairy consumption, these products will get better and become more 
widely available (and probably less expensive) - which will make it easier for the next wave of people to give up dairy, and so forth. Specifically, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to see thousands of restaurants, one by one, adding vegan cheese pizzas to their menus over the next several years.

There&#039;s a very nice cooperative and communal feel to all this. Each person who goes vegan, or even half vegan, makes it easy for others to do the same - and chips away at the institutionalized exploitation of animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is quite a substantive post!</p>
<p>I have a feeling that long before the end of your lives, you&#8217;ll be ordering great-tasting vegan pizza on a regular basis, and that will not only replace animal cheese pizza, but pretty much guarantee against &#8220;falling off the wagon.&#8221;</p>
<p>Already, there are some great advances being made in vegan cheese &#8211; Cheezley and Teese come to mind. The vegan parmesans are very good, too. As more people reduce and eventually eliminate their dairy consumption, these products will get better and become more<br />
widely available (and probably less expensive) &#8211; which will make it easier for the next wave of people to give up dairy, and so forth. Specifically, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see thousands of restaurants, one by one, adding vegan cheese pizzas to their menus over the next several years.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a very nice cooperative and communal feel to all this. Each person who goes vegan, or even half vegan, makes it easy for others to do the same &#8211; and chips away at the institutionalized exploitation of animals.</p>
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