Comments on: Skim Milk / Lo-Fat Milk Linked to Prostate Cancer http://veganbits.com/skim-milk-lo-fat-milk-linked-to-prostate-cancer/ Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:52:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Lane http://veganbits.com/skim-milk-lo-fat-milk-linked-to-prostate-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-531 Lane Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:59:19 +0000 http://veganbits.com/skim-milk-lo-fat-milk-linked-to-prostate-cancer/#comment-531 Hi Nadine, Thanks for the comments. I'm not a scientist nor am I a doctor, so I really can't comment on your comment that it is the protein in milk which causes cancer, although I have since read articles indicating that excessive protein (of any source) is linked to an increased cancer risk in general. The NCI and U Hawaii studies that are referenced in this post are linking prostate cancer to low fat milk (not the protein in milk). It's interesting that scientists in the 70s were basically able to switch cancer on and off by changing the diet fed to laboratory animals. But that study is 30 years old... I'm surprised that there hasn't been more recognition of this fact. As for the soy/cancer relationship, that is most confusing to us. Jane's cousin was diagnosed with breast cancer last year, and the doctors told her specifically to AVOID all soy products. Wouldn't it be nice if there could actually be a conclusive medical study that everyone agreed on? As for "The China Study" -- I'm on the waiting list for inter library loan. A few people have suggested it. I can't wait to read it. Hi Nadine,
Thanks for the comments. I’m not a scientist nor am I a doctor, so I really can’t comment on your comment that it is the protein in milk which causes cancer, although I have since read articles indicating that excessive protein (of any source) is linked to an increased cancer risk in general.

The NCI and U Hawaii studies that are referenced in this post are linking prostate cancer to low fat milk (not the protein in milk).
It’s interesting that scientists in the 70s were basically able to switch cancer on and off by changing the diet fed to laboratory animals. But that study is 30 years old… I’m surprised that there hasn’t been more recognition of this fact.

As for the soy/cancer relationship, that is most confusing to us. Jane’s cousin was diagnosed with breast cancer last year, and the doctors told her specifically to AVOID all soy products. Wouldn’t it be nice if there could actually be a conclusive medical study that everyone agreed on?

As for “The China Study” — I’m on the waiting list for inter library loan. A few people have suggested it. I can’t wait to read it.

]]> By: Nadine http://veganbits.com/skim-milk-lo-fat-milk-linked-to-prostate-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-530 Nadine Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:14:31 +0000 http://veganbits.com/skim-milk-lo-fat-milk-linked-to-prostate-cancer/#comment-530 Actually, it's the PROTEIN in milk that promotes cancer. Any animal protein does. Just one example: in the 70s, scientists investigated the relationship between liver cancer and protein (casein) in rats . They gave aflatoxin to the rats, a carcinogen known to cause liver cancer. When then the rats' diet contained 20% of casein, the cancer grew; when it was 5% percent, the growth stopped. They pretty much switched the cancer on and off at will, just by changed the rats' diet. BUT when they fed the rats 20% protein from plants (soy, in this case) no cancer growth whatsoever could be detected - it didn't matter how much aflatoxin or (plant) protein the rats got, the cancer wouldn't grow. And there were/are further studies that show a statistically significant correlation between the the so-called diseases of affluence such as heart disease, stroke, diabetes, obesity and some types of cancer (f.e. of the prostate, breasts, colon...) and animal protein. Well, I know, this sounds unlikely... especially because a mere "comment" is not the place to inform about every aspect of this and other studies, but I strongly recommend reading "The China Study" by T. Colin Campbell: http://www.thechinastudy.com/about.html It's so worth it! :D Actually, it’s the PROTEIN in milk that promotes cancer. Any animal protein does.
Just one example: in the 70s, scientists investigated the relationship between liver cancer and protein (casein) in rats . They gave aflatoxin to the rats, a carcinogen known to cause liver cancer. When then the rats’ diet contained 20% of casein, the cancer grew; when it was 5% percent, the growth stopped. They pretty much switched the cancer on and off at will, just by changed the rats’ diet. BUT when they fed the rats 20% protein from plants (soy, in this case) no cancer growth whatsoever could be detected – it didn’t matter how much aflatoxin or (plant) protein the rats got, the cancer wouldn’t grow. And there were/are further studies that show a statistically significant correlation between the the so-called diseases of affluence such as heart disease, stroke, diabetes, obesity and some types of cancer (f.e. of the prostate, breasts, colon…) and animal protein.

Well, I know, this sounds unlikely… especially because a mere “comment” is not the place to inform about every aspect of this and other studies, but I strongly recommend reading “The China Study” by T. Colin Campbell: http://www.thechinastudy.com/about.html
It’s so worth it! :D

]]> By: Lane http://veganbits.com/skim-milk-lo-fat-milk-linked-to-prostate-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-476 Lane Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:40:42 +0000 http://veganbits.com/skim-milk-lo-fat-milk-linked-to-prostate-cancer/#comment-476 Thanks Dave, We still haven't read The China Study yet, but I think it's probably time to get it from the library. Lane Thanks Dave,
We still haven’t read The China Study yet, but I think it’s probably time to get it from the library.
Lane

]]> By: Dave W. http://veganbits.com/skim-milk-lo-fat-milk-linked-to-prostate-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-467 Dave W. Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:07:33 +0000 http://veganbits.com/skim-milk-lo-fat-milk-linked-to-prostate-cancer/#comment-467 Great post! I was among the masses who initially ramped up my dairy intake substantially after becoming vegetarian; despite the animal rights issues I had recently learned about, I still felt we "needed" the nutrition from the milk. Later, upon reading works like The China Study, I said goodbye to the milk and cheese and started heading toward a vegan diet and lifestyle. I'm glad to see there has been some additional research done in this area. Dave W. Great post!
I was among the masses who initially ramped up my dairy intake substantially after becoming vegetarian; despite the animal rights issues I had recently learned about, I still felt we “needed” the nutrition from the milk. Later, upon reading works like The China Study, I said goodbye to the milk and cheese and started heading toward a vegan diet and lifestyle.

I’m glad to see there has been some additional research done in this area.

Dave W.

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