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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 20:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I for one am not afraid to kill an animal to eat and yes when I see a deer my mouth waters when I see fish my mouth waters. I am an omnivore by choice and I live as healthy a life as anyone who assumes that we are supposed to be just vegetarians. There are places in this world you would have long perished if you didn&#039;t eat something more substantial. Yes you can survive as a vegan and a person can survive as a carnivore. But as they say variety is the spice of life and how could something that smells as good as bacon frying on a Sunday morning be bad for you like anything else moderation is the key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one am not afraid to kill an animal to eat and yes when I see a deer my mouth waters when I see fish my mouth waters. I am an omnivore by choice and I live as healthy a life as anyone who assumes that we are supposed to be just vegetarians. There are places in this world you would have long perished if you didn&#8217;t eat something more substantial. Yes you can survive as a vegan and a person can survive as a carnivore. But as they say variety is the spice of life and how could something that smells as good as bacon frying on a Sunday morning be bad for you like anything else moderation is the key.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Vladimir Térémetz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean Vladimir Térémetz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FRUGIVORES ?  :

www.declaration-universelle-des-devoirs-de-l-etre-humain.net  :

?Bien amicalement     Jean Vladimir</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FRUGIVORES ?  :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.declaration-universelle-des-devoirs-de-l-etre-humain.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.declaration-universelle-des-devoirs-de-l-etre-humain.net</a>  :</p>
<p>?Bien amicalement     Jean Vladimir</p>
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		<title>By: cliffbrowning</title>
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		<dc:creator>cliffbrowning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 04:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok so as far as using a 1700&#039;s scientific reference, people still quote way older reference like food is your medicine and people today have gotten where they are from scientist of the past. Also that is the elightened period.  science today is mostly about playing god and understanding specific chemicals when it comes to biology.  chemicals dont work just by themselves. they work with other chemicals or molecules and knowing exactly how they react in a living person is nearly impossible.  simplicity is usually the best answer.  quinoa also is not a true grain.  it is more of a fruit of the plant. that is why it is fattier and tastes nutty. people are so quick to be sceptic of everything especially if you didnt go to school for 6 to 8 extra years.  all that means is the regergitate the same teachings that everyone else learns.  true science sees outside the box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok so as far as using a 1700&#8242;s scientific reference, people still quote way older reference like food is your medicine and people today have gotten where they are from scientist of the past. Also that is the elightened period.  science today is mostly about playing god and understanding specific chemicals when it comes to biology.  chemicals dont work just by themselves. they work with other chemicals or molecules and knowing exactly how they react in a living person is nearly impossible.  simplicity is usually the best answer.  quinoa also is not a true grain.  it is more of a fruit of the plant. that is why it is fattier and tastes nutty. people are so quick to be sceptic of everything especially if you didnt go to school for 6 to 8 extra years.  all that means is the regergitate the same teachings that everyone else learns.  true science sees outside the box.</p>
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		<title>By: Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anonymous 
So I guess you don&#039;t believe in gravity?  Newton born 1642.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anonymous<br />
So I guess you don&#8217;t believe in gravity?  Newton born 1642.</p>
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		<title>By: 8039</title>
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		<dc:creator>8039</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re basing your answer of a scientist who lived in 1700&#039;s? wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re basing your answer of a scientist who lived in 1700&#8242;s? wow.</p>
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		<title>By: Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Elaine,
I like &quot;a.&quot;  I must say, I&#039;ve never  felt like killing any animal, except perhaps one of the cats when they&#039;ve done something bad.

Hi Natala, 
Gary provided you with excellent suggestions.  However, as much as we LOVE quinoa, I&#039;d be careful as the grain is actually an edible seed.  So check first to see if he&#039;s allergic.

We really like oat milk, it&#039;s nice and creamy, so I second that as a soy replacement.  It is more expensive, however.  If your husband isn&#039;t allergic to a particular nut, you can make your own nut milks.  Jane makes almond milk all the time.

As for nutritional information.... there&#039;s lots of it out there.  We found allergy information at &lt;a href =&quot;http://www.vegfamily.com/health/vegan-food-allergies.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VegFamily&lt;/a&gt;.  Because of your husbands extreme allergies, I would &lt;strong&gt;strongly&lt;/strong&gt; suggest that you seek professional advice (a vegan nutritionist / dietician).

Also, I quickly googled vegan allergies, and found &lt;a href=&quot;http://hkentcraig.com/VeganAllergyPage.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this link&lt;/a&gt;.  It sounds like this person, Kent, has the same issues as your husband.  He offers his email address.  Perhaps you can contact him.  He likely has much more to knowledge than we do regarding the allergies.  

And finally, if your husband has to eat meat to live... people have been eating meat for millenia.    You do what you have to do.

Best of luck!

Hi Gary,
Thank you for pointing Natala in the right direction!  As always, we&#039;re grateful for your input.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Elaine,<br />
I like &#8220;a.&#8221;  I must say, I&#8217;ve never  felt like killing any animal, except perhaps one of the cats when they&#8217;ve done something bad.</p>
<p>Hi Natala,<br />
Gary provided you with excellent suggestions.  However, as much as we LOVE quinoa, I&#8217;d be careful as the grain is actually an edible seed.  So check first to see if he&#8217;s allergic.</p>
<p>We really like oat milk, it&#8217;s nice and creamy, so I second that as a soy replacement.  It is more expensive, however.  If your husband isn&#8217;t allergic to a particular nut, you can make your own nut milks.  Jane makes almond milk all the time.</p>
<p>As for nutritional information&#8230;. there&#8217;s lots of it out there.  We found allergy information at <a href ="http://www.vegfamily.com/health/vegan-food-allergies.htm" rel="nofollow">VegFamily</a>.  Because of your husbands extreme allergies, I would <strong>strongly</strong> suggest that you seek professional advice (a vegan nutritionist / dietician).</p>
<p>Also, I quickly googled vegan allergies, and found <a href="http://hkentcraig.com/VeganAllergyPage.html" rel="nofollow">this link</a>.  It sounds like this person, Kent, has the same issues as your husband.  He offers his email address.  Perhaps you can contact him.  He likely has much more to knowledge than we do regarding the allergies.  </p>
<p>And finally, if your husband has to eat meat to live&#8230; people have been eating meat for millenia.    You do what you have to do.</p>
<p>Best of luck!</p>
<p>Hi Gary,<br />
Thank you for pointing Natala in the right direction!  As always, we&#8217;re grateful for your input.  <img src='http://veganbits.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: natala</title>
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		<dc:creator>natala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Gary! I wrote to PCRM, I hope they can help us out. Also, thanks for the suggestions on milk, I hadn&#039;t thought about hemp and oat milk, and I know that he could try Rice or Potato milk as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gary! I wrote to PCRM, I hope they can help us out. Also, thanks for the suggestions on milk, I hadn&#8217;t thought about hemp and oat milk, and I know that he could try Rice or Potato milk as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Natala,

Sorry to hear of your husband&#039;s allergies. You and/or he may want to contact the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (www.pcrm.org) and/or the Vegetarian Resource Group (www.vrg.org). You may also want to seek out a vegan-friendly dietician. The aforementioned two groups may be of help in that regard.

Many health food stores and even the Whole Foods near me carry oat milk and hemp milk. I like the former very much, but some people prefer hemp milk.

One other idea, if you haven&#039;t pursued this already...trying new types of potato-like vegetables, such as yucca, and grain products such as quinoa, which is a complete protein.

To the extent that your husband, because of dietary restrictions, has to eat animal products, eating beef kills fewer animals than eating chicken, although I realize that one needs variety in their diet.

Best of luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Natala,</p>
<p>Sorry to hear of your husband&#8217;s allergies. You and/or he may want to contact the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (www.pcrm.org) and/or the Vegetarian Resource Group (www.vrg.org). You may also want to seek out a vegan-friendly dietician. The aforementioned two groups may be of help in that regard.</p>
<p>Many health food stores and even the Whole Foods near me carry oat milk and hemp milk. I like the former very much, but some people prefer hemp milk.</p>
<p>One other idea, if you haven&#8217;t pursued this already&#8230;trying new types of potato-like vegetables, such as yucca, and grain products such as quinoa, which is a complete protein.</p>
<p>To the extent that your husband, because of dietary restrictions, has to eat animal products, eating beef kills fewer animals than eating chicken, although I realize that one needs variety in their diet.</p>
<p>Best of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: natala</title>
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		<dc:creator>natala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a diabetic for years I was told to eat lots of meat, little carbs (even the good kind) and NO fruit. But that method was failing, over, and over, and I wasn&#039;t losing weight. I read a couple of books, that helped me to decide on going vegan, and have had astonishing results (like not having to take insulin anymore). Dr&#039;s now say that the body can not really process meat, which causes a lot of problems, especially with diabetes. 
My question though, is not for myself - it&#039;s for my husband. He is ridden with A LOT of food allergies - which mainly include all fruits, vegetables (except potato), all nuts, some seeds and soy. I am worried that he will have to because of lack of any other option, eat meat and dairy for the rest of his life. I&#039;m not really sure what to do about it, and if there is ever a time where eating meat/dairy can be healthy, for someone with an extreme case? He would like nothing more than to be able to go vegan, but I&#039;m not really sure what there is left for him to eat. Is there such thing as safe omnivore eating? If anyone knows of any resources/books that might help us out, that would also be greatly appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a diabetic for years I was told to eat lots of meat, little carbs (even the good kind) and NO fruit. But that method was failing, over, and over, and I wasn&#8217;t losing weight. I read a couple of books, that helped me to decide on going vegan, and have had astonishing results (like not having to take insulin anymore). Dr&#8217;s now say that the body can not really process meat, which causes a lot of problems, especially with diabetes.<br />
My question though, is not for myself &#8211; it&#8217;s for my husband. He is ridden with A LOT of food allergies &#8211; which mainly include all fruits, vegetables (except potato), all nuts, some seeds and soy. I am worried that he will have to because of lack of any other option, eat meat and dairy for the rest of his life. I&#8217;m not really sure what to do about it, and if there is ever a time where eating meat/dairy can be healthy, for someone with an extreme case? He would like nothing more than to be able to go vegan, but I&#8217;m not really sure what there is left for him to eat. Is there such thing as safe omnivore eating? If anyone knows of any resources/books that might help us out, that would also be greatly appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine Vigneault</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine Vigneault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, I&#039;m a Las Vegas vegan. 
The word &quot;vegan&quot; can mean someone from Vegas, but it&#039;s pronounced vay-gun, whereas a strict vegetarian vegan is pronounced vee-gun.

The response I like to use to the &quot;humans are omnivores&quot; line is two part:

a) My dog is very obviously a natural omnivore. He gets excited and salivates when he sees squirrels. Do you salivate when you see squirrels? Do you crave crow? Do you get excited about killing animals? The majority of humans don&#039;t actually get excited about killing animals. In fact, it&#039;s so distasteful to them that they pay others to do it for them. 

b) History has shown that humans can choose to be herbivores and not only do they not have health problems, they have improved health as a result. Thus, the point of whether or not humans are &quot;naturally&quot; omnivores or herbivores is moot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, I&#8217;m a Las Vegas vegan.<br />
The word &#8220;vegan&#8221; can mean someone from Vegas, but it&#8217;s pronounced vay-gun, whereas a strict vegetarian vegan is pronounced vee-gun.</p>
<p>The response I like to use to the &#8220;humans are omnivores&#8221; line is two part:</p>
<p>a) My dog is very obviously a natural omnivore. He gets excited and salivates when he sees squirrels. Do you salivate when you see squirrels? Do you crave crow? Do you get excited about killing animals? The majority of humans don&#8217;t actually get excited about killing animals. In fact, it&#8217;s so distasteful to them that they pay others to do it for them. </p>
<p>b) History has shown that humans can choose to be herbivores and not only do they not have health problems, they have improved health as a result. Thus, the point of whether or not humans are &#8220;naturally&#8221; omnivores or herbivores is moot.</p>
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