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		<title>By: mv96</title>
		<link>http://veganbits.com/born-again-carnivore/comment-page-1/#comment-3330</link>
		<dc:creator>mv96</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TOTALLY understand :) Williams is trying to &quot;condone&quot; her lack of judgement, to herself especially...but, I think also to her friends and people that know her. She&#039;s not very bright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOTALLY understand <img src='http://veganbits.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Williams is trying to &#8220;condone&#8221; her lack of judgement, to herself especially&#8230;but, I think also to her friends and people that know her. She&#8217;s not very bright.</p>
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		<title>By: Lane</title>
		<link>http://veganbits.com/born-again-carnivore/comment-page-1/#comment-3319</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nicole,
I found it hard to believe anyone could go back to eating meat after such a long period of time.  The longer Jane and I are vegan, the more repugnant the idea of eating meat becomes.  Not so much the idea of the taste of meat, but rather the thought of how those animals are tortured.

Hi Kelly,
I think there&#039;s more to it than that... Our society doesn&#039;t make it easy to be a non-meat eater.  And I believe there are many people who don&#039;t associate the pre-packaged boneless, skinless chicken breast with animal cruelty, or even with an animal for that matter.

Hi MV96,
I hope you understand that is not my comment, I am quoting Williams.  I don&#039;t believe there is such a thing as &quot;well sourced meat.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nicole,<br />
I found it hard to believe anyone could go back to eating meat after such a long period of time.  The longer Jane and I are vegan, the more repugnant the idea of eating meat becomes.  Not so much the idea of the taste of meat, but rather the thought of how those animals are tortured.</p>
<p>Hi Kelly,<br />
I think there&#8217;s more to it than that&#8230; Our society doesn&#8217;t make it easy to be a non-meat eater.  And I believe there are many people who don&#8217;t associate the pre-packaged boneless, skinless chicken breast with animal cruelty, or even with an animal for that matter.</p>
<p>Hi MV96,<br />
I hope you understand that is not my comment, I am quoting Williams.  I don&#8217;t believe there is such a thing as &#8220;well sourced meat.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mv96</title>
		<link>http://veganbits.com/born-again-carnivore/comment-page-1/#comment-3315</link>
		<dc:creator>mv96</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 00:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;WELL-SOURCED&quot; MEAT???????????? Are you serious???? When will ignorant people wake up and realize? YOU ARE EATING A DEAD ANIMAL. Helloooo. We&#039;re a civilized world (supposedly).. 
Apparently, we can only do what WE know IS best for ourselves, and hope that &quot;mad cow&quot; doesn&#039;t return..course, then we could say..&quot;ya dummy&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;WELL-SOURCED&#8221; MEAT???????????? Are you serious???? When will ignorant people wake up and realize? YOU ARE EATING A DEAD ANIMAL. Helloooo. We&#8217;re a civilized world (supposedly)..<br />
Apparently, we can only do what WE know IS best for ourselves, and hope that &#8220;mad cow&#8221; doesn&#8217;t return..course, then we could say..&#8221;ya dummy&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://veganbits.com/born-again-carnivore/comment-page-1/#comment-3313</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone can survive on a vegan diet since animals are not here on this planet to be torture.  When it comes down to it people are selfish. They will use any excuse to justify cruelty and their lack of compassion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone can survive on a vegan diet since animals are not here on this planet to be torture.  When it comes down to it people are selfish. They will use any excuse to justify cruelty and their lack of compassion.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://veganbits.com/born-again-carnivore/comment-page-1/#comment-3301</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I totally agree with the above. I can&#039;t believe that someone who was a committed veg for so many years could turn the clock back. It&#039;s nonsense. I also agree with Sue that people who could not do well on a plant-based diet are actually rare. I think it&#039;s mostly psychological. It&#039;s like the flesh eater who tries a vegan dish (without knowing it&#039;s vegan) and likes it. Then he learns it&#039;s vegan and spit it!
I also read the China Study (brilliant by the way) and eating animals is total nonsense and a crime against our very real natures as herbivores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I totally agree with the above. I can&#8217;t believe that someone who was a committed veg for so many years could turn the clock back. It&#8217;s nonsense. I also agree with Sue that people who could not do well on a plant-based diet are actually rare. I think it&#8217;s mostly psychological. It&#8217;s like the flesh eater who tries a vegan dish (without knowing it&#8217;s vegan) and likes it. Then he learns it&#8217;s vegan and spit it!<br />
I also read the China Study (brilliant by the way) and eating animals is total nonsense and a crime against our very real natures as herbivores.</p>
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		<title>By: Lane</title>
		<link>http://veganbits.com/born-again-carnivore/comment-page-1/#comment-3298</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sue,
I didn&#039;t really understand Williams&#039; motivations either.  If it were something that happened gradually over time, backsliding as it were, I might understand more.  But she seems to have just flipped a switch.  Also, the idea of &quot;well-sourced meat is seen as healthy and natural&quot; doesn&#039;t counteract the fact that the animals are being slaughtered, and most of them are being slaughtered brutally.
I have this discussion with my brother.  He buys his meat locally thinking he&#039;s doing great things.  But he&#039;s promoting meat eating in a manner that isn&#039;t sustainable.  To feed the rest of the population, cattle have to be raised more &quot;efficiently.&quot;  Plus all my usual rant about greenhouse gasses and pollution...

Hi Di H,
Jane often says how she can&#039;t imagine going back to eating animal flesh.  I can see people moving between vegan and vegetarian much more easily, but after 25 years this woman is now an omni?  I don&#039;t get it either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sue,<br />
I didn&#8217;t really understand Williams&#8217; motivations either.  If it were something that happened gradually over time, backsliding as it were, I might understand more.  But she seems to have just flipped a switch.  Also, the idea of &#8220;well-sourced meat is seen as healthy and natural&#8221; doesn&#8217;t counteract the fact that the animals are being slaughtered, and most of them are being slaughtered brutally.<br />
I have this discussion with my brother.  He buys his meat locally thinking he&#8217;s doing great things.  But he&#8217;s promoting meat eating in a manner that isn&#8217;t sustainable.  To feed the rest of the population, cattle have to be raised more &#8220;efficiently.&#8221;  Plus all my usual rant about greenhouse gasses and pollution&#8230;</p>
<p>Hi Di H,<br />
Jane often says how she can&#8217;t imagine going back to eating animal flesh.  I can see people moving between vegan and vegetarian much more easily, but after 25 years this woman is now an omni?  I don&#8217;t get it either.</p>
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		<title>By: Di H</title>
		<link>http://veganbits.com/born-again-carnivore/comment-page-1/#comment-3296</link>
		<dc:creator>Di H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with Sue on this. I&#039;m veggie for health, environmental and ethical reasons. I just couldn&#039;t imagine contemplating eating flesh ever again! One of our old friends was veggie for 6 years then &#039;reverted&#039;. I just don&#039;t see how anyone could, the thought of it turns my stomach.

Also in her article she states she walked past the cows in her farmers field knowing they were roaming free, and a short journey from abbatoire to butcher. How could you LOOK at the cow and think mmmm that&#039;ll be tasty in the butchers in a few weeks? Seriously?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with Sue on this. I&#8217;m veggie for health, environmental and ethical reasons. I just couldn&#8217;t imagine contemplating eating flesh ever again! One of our old friends was veggie for 6 years then &#8216;reverted&#8217;. I just don&#8217;t see how anyone could, the thought of it turns my stomach.</p>
<p>Also in her article she states she walked past the cows in her farmers field knowing they were roaming free, and a short journey from abbatoire to butcher. How could you LOOK at the cow and think mmmm that&#8217;ll be tasty in the butchers in a few weeks? Seriously?</p>
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		<title>By: Sue H</title>
		<link>http://veganbits.com/born-again-carnivore/comment-page-1/#comment-3294</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, I just don’t get that.  OK, well, maybe I can see it for people who went veggie for environmental reasons; if someday, we can come up with a way to deal with the dreadful earth-impact of meat and dairy production, though I’m not holding my breath.  But for health reasons?   After reading The China Study, I can’t see the logic there.  And for those of us eating veggie for animal rights reasons, not so likely…dead is always going to be dead.  She had it right the first time, meat IS murder.

While I agree that there are some people who don’t do as well on a veggie diet, I believe they are extremely rare, and are genetic abnormalities.  And most of those could thrive, but would have to pay more attention to getting vegetarian food with nutrients they need. But that’s just conjecture on my part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, I just don’t get that.  OK, well, maybe I can see it for people who went veggie for environmental reasons; if someday, we can come up with a way to deal with the dreadful earth-impact of meat and dairy production, though I’m not holding my breath.  But for health reasons?   After reading The China Study, I can’t see the logic there.  And for those of us eating veggie for animal rights reasons, not so likely…dead is always going to be dead.  She had it right the first time, meat IS murder.</p>
<p>While I agree that there are some people who don’t do as well on a veggie diet, I believe they are extremely rare, and are genetic abnormalities.  And most of those could thrive, but would have to pay more attention to getting vegetarian food with nutrients they need. But that’s just conjecture on my part.</p>
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